Rallitek Rear Springs for 2016 Subaru Outback Review

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We bought a 2017 Subaru Outback eleven months ago thinking it would be the perfect car for our active lifestyles. Nosotros knew information technology wasn't a heavy duty SUV when we bought information technology but we made the wrong assumption (based upon all of the marketing photos with them loaded up with bikes, ski boxes, kayaks, etc) that it was comparable to our Lexus RX which is likewise on a softer, car chassis. Our Subaru makes our Lexus seem similar a Toyota Sequoia in comparing. I know tons of people love their Subarus so people may get upset by this mail only ours has just been so frustrating for u.s. that nosotros've decided nosotros will accept the huge loss and put it up for sale. I just got the call from the 2d Subaru dealer saying at that place is nil wrong with the interruption in spite of all of our problems.

Allow me rewind and requite you the dorsum story. We split our time between Florida and the NC mountains and then nosotros rarely need AWD but nosotros knew this year nosotros were going to start taking 8 week ski trips each winter and then nosotros thought the Outback would be the perfect car for those trips and then the 3-four days a week that we are either MTBing, kayaking or whatever. The car (I volition never use the term SUV or crossover for the Outback once again) did fine effectually WNC and fifty-fifty did fine on the drive out to Colorado. Later vi weeks out there, we had the tires rotated at the Silverthorne Subie dealer and they said all four tires had even wear and they had one-half of their life left (at eighteen,000 miles). The car did fine getting us to the slopes the 50ish days we drove upwardly so props to their not bad AWD system! Nosotros've had a list of frustrations with the car including twice running out of gas on the highway with the computer telling united states we had 70 miles left but that'south non the point of this post so I won't nit option the smaller things that drove us nuts.

On the way home we started driving back, fairly loaded up only with the verbal aforementioned gear as our trip out West and when we were filling up in St Louis I checked the air pressure on the tires and noticed that the rear tires seemed to exist wearing faster than the front. By Atlanta the rear tires were wearing fast plenty that I was concerned if they'd make it home. Thankfully nosotros did equally it was pouring rain and the car felt like the struts were worn out. Yes, nosotros should accept stopped and plant a dealer only after crossing the country with ii kids, we only wanted to become dwelling house. The next solar day I took it to the closest dealer and they couldn't believe how different the front and rear tires were so they put it on the alignment rack and to their surprise the alignment wasn't perfect, but practiced. They checked all suspension components and said that nothing was wrong. Non thinking the problem was solved, we begrudgingly put iv make new tires on it and had information technology aligned merely the car all the same feels like the rear struts are blown out when we striking a bump at highway speeds with 4 people in the car (my kids are 9 and 13). I raced motocross for years and am very sensitive to suspensions setup and when this car hits a bump the rear end chatters dorsum and forth to where my wife hates driving the car as she's over corrected to where information technology was squirrley to say the to the lowest degree.. It's her motorcar and she's put less than 200 miles on information technology the past 3 months and only uses it around town. Tired of making payments on a car nosotros hardly use I decided to take it to a different dealer to have it checked out. They drove information technology today and he said he felt a petty of what we feel but he said, "that's normal and yours feels improve than some of them on our lot". They checked out the struts and pause components and said everything looks fine so they put it on their rack and said the alignment was off so they did some other alignment (subsequently 200 miles). I don't know whose auto is off or if anything changed simply I'1000 simply up in arms over this not all that cheap, new car.

Again, I sympathise a lot of owners love their Subarus and perchance I just got a lemon but I don't know what to practice because ii Subaru dealers are telling me everything looks fine and they accept no idea why my automobile is eating rear tires. I never buy new cars but figured this would exist the one we continue for 20 years and laissez passer it downward to the kids so idea we were making a skillful determination at the time. Simply I simply don't trust the suspension on this vehicle, especially for trips back and forth between our 2 homes where we have a couple suitcases in back, so we decided this evening that we will accept the hit and sell it while the new tires still look good.

So, all that to say, what would be a good SUV that is like in size or slightly larger, that is still actually good on our almanac ski pilgrimage, only that is heavier duty to where it can at least carry iv passengers and their gear on a road trip without throwing the alignment completely off. With no one in the car, 4 bikes on a Kuat rack will cause the rear cease to squat so information technology's clear that this auto is just a little as well under-sprung for our agile family unit. We don't demand a Suburban or Sequoia but is at that place something out there that is medium sized but notwithstanding gets decent mileage without being so frail? Before buying the Outback we were adequately set on an Infiniti QX60 only the AWD supposedly isn't as skilful. The Acura MDX is supposed to take a really skillful AWD but the Subaru evidently has the best which was what pushed usa that management. I had a 4 Runner in college and idea about going that route only we were trying to be frugal with the Subaru and it bit u.s. in the you know what. What is the perfect philharmonic of ruggedness, MPG, great out of the snow for ix-ten months of the year and so great in the snowfall for the ski trip? I repent in advance for ruffling any Subaru owner's feathers and I empathize these are smashing cars for some people or at that place wouldn't be so many on the road. In researching this issue I have come across a number of long time Subaru owners who are a fiddling less stoked with the progressive loss of ruggedness in subsequent generations. Subaru isn't stupid and they realize the majority of the owners just want a really soft riding grocery-getter that still excels in the snowfall and it does that well. Heck, if I lived in Denver and merely bee-lined it up I70 with not much gear in the car, information technology could peradventure work, merely I simply demand a little more than beef in our outdoor play vehicle so information technology can handle road trips. Recommendations? Thanks!

PS- I've never been in the position of having to sell a brand new car that we merely paid sales revenue enhancement, 100,000 mile extended warranty, etc. What is the all-time way to cut our losses on this one? Merchandise it in and so that the sales taxation carries over or sell it outright and then purchase something else? I got a loan on information technology because the interest rate was so low but can you fifty-fifty piece of work a bargain with a private party if they need a loan and their bank has to pay off your loan? Or should I just pay it off now before list it for sale? Information technology really sucks but this is the showtime car I've owned that is going to feel so good to get rid of! The only question is how much are we going to lose.

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I got a loan on it because the involvement rate was so low but tin can you fifty-fifty work a deal with a private political party if they need a loan and their depository financial institution has to pay off your loan? Or should I just pay information technology off at present earlier listing it for auction?

I bought my truck with a loan through my credit marriage, from a private party seller that had a loan on the vehicle. My banking concern took intendance of everything. It was a non-consequence. You don't need to pay it off earlier listing information technology for auction.

Too, with well-nigh car companies focusing more on ride quality than capability, how do you figure out how a car will perform under load? I feel like an idiot for not doing more research earlier buying the Subaru merely it never crossed my heed that 4 bikes on a rack would overload the rear interruption. Moving frontwards, is using tongue weight and towing capacity reasonable for figuring out how a vehicle can handle a load? Our Lexus for example isn't very beefy with 350/3500 limits but for some reason loading upwardly that SUV doesn't throw off the alignment. It's a take hold of 22 because I don't want something that is a huge gas guzzler but I don't want to be too frugal (read: cheap) worrying then much about mpg that we cease up in the same boat. Thanks!

Thanks, that makes it easier! Are you in a state where you lot hold the championship even though in that location was a loan or did the bank have the title? I'd be a little nervous as a heir-apparent if someone didn't have the title in hand but I guess if it'southward all going thru the bank then it's ok.

I want to take viii week long ski trip with my family!

Accept you lot considered awd Toyota Sienna? Seriously....

any newer iv door pickup with the smaller engines? 2.7 ford....four cyl toyota...etc

Quote Originally Posted by bodywhomper View Post

I want to take 8 week long ski trip with my family!

Have you considered awd Toyota Sienna? Seriously....

I have an Outback and ii kids and am prone to AWD Sienna jealousy. MPGs are a stride downwardly from the current-gen Outback, only it booty a bunch of shit oh-so-well.

I had a CX5 and it drove better than our Outback and got better MPG, but the cargo area is shorter.

Owns ii houses and takes 8-week ski trips, but cannot effigy out how motorcar loans work ?

BTW: my Outback has 170,000 miles and runs fine.

Wait .... y'all tossed an RX for an Outback?!?!?!?

Besides many words in your sympathy plea, so not bothering with specifics -

suck it up buttercup, and movement on.

Toyota Highlander might fit your needs if you can afford one. Friend just bought a 2015 and loves it. Won't shut up nearly it in fact. He's got multiple bikes on the rear rack. Tows his raft with it too. I think it has a 5000 towing chapters. 24 MPG.

My sometime '98 Outback was a trooper, 250,000 miles when we sold it. Great AWD performance.

Quote Originally Posted past Harry View Post

Owns 2 houses and takes 8-week ski trips, simply cannot figure out how auto loans work ?

BTW: my Outback has 170,000 miles and runs fine.

I laughed.

I don�t know shit about cars really but I owned a Subaru then I bought a Volvo and there is no comparing. Toll point college, aye, but you become what yous pay for. 85K on my 2012 XC60 and no complaints to date. Similar size to Outback just a much quieter and sturdier rig. No snow functioning issues w blizzaks.

If y'all become on a test drive bout continue Volvo in front end of mind. Gas mileage sorta sucks tho at to the lowest degree in the T6.

Honda Pilot.

PM Pio if you need any specifics.

Y'all need an 02 with 06 Baja turbo springs. My Outback laughs at heavy loads. In fact information technology takes some weight to get it to settle in only right.

Also, always do your alignment with weight in the motorcar and full fuel.

Seriously though the Outback goes to the new global platform in 2020. Worth the wait probably. I so hate soft bound suspensions. The 00 to 04 Outbacks had the least mushy suspensions.

Likewise the new Subaru Ascent. Very tasty. https://jalopnik.com/the-2019-subaru...ual-1826160111

Also I agree...Awd Sienna. Highlander. Also 4R for bomber everything save fuel burn rate and ride.

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Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post

Toyota Highlander might fit your needs if yous can afford one. Friend just bought a 2015 and loves it. Won't shut up nigh it in fact. He'southward got multiple bikes on the rear rack. Tows his raft with it too. I think it has a 5000 towing chapters. 24 MPG.

Lifted Sienna, right? So yous kinda just choose ground clearance or sliding doors (ostensibly based on the age of your children).

OP probably doesn't desire to hear it, but a forester isn't a bad choice. Or four door taco. But I'one thousand pretty sure you can't go a 4wd, iv door, 4 cylinder tacoma. EPA says v6 gets ameliorate highway mileage, anyway

Quote Originally Posted by sruffian View Post

Lifted Sienna, right?

Non sure. Sienna towing capacity 3,500 pounds vs. 5,000 for the highlander.

Outback towing capacity is listed every bit two,700 pds.

Quote Originally Posted by sruffian View Post

Lifted Sienna, right? So you kinda but choose ground clearance or sliding doors (ostensibly based on the historic period of your children).

OP probably doesn't desire to hear it, but a forester isn't a bad selection. Or 4 door taco. But I'k pretty sure yous can't get a 4wd, iv door, 4 cylinder tacoma. EPA says v6 gets amend highway mileage, anyway

Or, if y'all're a real baller, lift kit on your Sienna. Ground clearance AND sliding doors.

Go and sienna.

A hard 210k miles after best vehicle we�ve ever owned. Driven information technology everywhere, loaded down, pulling raft and trailer. Sell the Subaru while you can, drop 30 ish on a lease return.

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I hate my Outback, but bought it as a beater so any, but I become it. I call back they're highly overrated. As do sveral friends who have and/or currently own.

We take an older GX470. Depreciation is crazy so you tin option upwards one that was babied by a rich dentist and it's absolutely mint and relatively cheap. They are beasts in the snow and offroad. Maybe non quite enough rear cargo for you though.... I'd still check one out. Be prepared to drop more on gas though.

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Selling a motorcar with a known issue instead of the fixing the issue seems similar an over-reaction when you could at to the lowest degree endeavor to gear up the issue. Especially if you say you're a pause guy.

Information technology's well known that the OEM springs are just too soft to handle gear + two people in the rear seat. So but buy an aftermarket spring set with a slight lift (<i") but a much higher spring charge per unit.

e.g.,

https://www.rallitek.com/oe-height-s...2015-2018.html

https://www.rallitek.com/oe-meridian-s...2015-2018.html

If you routinely have a huge load in the rear, you could go with the super-raised leap:
https://www.rallitek.com/raised-spri...2000-2004.html

Rallitek back up said they stopped recommending that for the Gen 5 outback because

Quote Originally Posted past rallitek support

the downtravel was pretty bad on the super raised spring, which is why nosotros moved to a spacer. This super raised leap wasn't designed for 15-17 OB, simply rather a spring of ours that merely happened to fit. So we provided it every bit an option, simply individuals weren't using enough weight with information technology, and this causes their struts to acme out during full droop.

Buy my Sienna! 2015 Limited westward/ AWD, 34K miles, certified pre-owned, under warranty until April 2019. Similar the OP, we are bailing on a newly purchased vehicle - bought the Sienna v weeks ago, simply my wife doesn�t like information technology. PM for mag cost. Seriously.

If not the Sienna, Consider a Volvo XC70 T6. Drives amazingly smooth under load, incredibly fun to drive, roof is depression enough that box and bike admission is still easy. Tin can�t imagine it would have similar issues every bit the Outback. I�m not at all a motorcar guy but I actually find I desire to bulldoze the XC - it�s just then damn comfy.

Quote Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post

Ftw. Takes an hour or so to change out rear pause per side. The rallitek'due south weren't available when I did my mods.

223k on my 02 at present which is mostly my in boondocks beater but still has a few trips to the mountains left in it maybe. 50k on the new shortblock. Runs better than ever. Probably means information technology will blow up soon.

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Bummed to hear virtually your Suby experience, OP. Hope y'all can get it sorted apace.

I got a bit confused past your use of "rugged","heavier duty", and "beef" in the OP, just the rest of your clarification implies tons of miles in nice conditions, then tons in heavy winter, but all on road. If that's the case, I definitely +1 a used 2011+ Highlander Hybrid for you (or RX hybrid if yous really only have 4 passengers -> distressing!) as all weather highway-eating machines.

We have just over 100k on a 2011 HiHy for our family of 4, with lots of tempest chasing/driving in Tahoe when nature cooperates, but mostly dry highway and city miles. The simply meaningful difference in our loads being I put 2 bikes on meridian + ii on the hitch when we travel vs. your 4 bikes on the hitch (9 & 13 year old: cheque!). If merely the 4 of us, all ski gear fits within the car w/out beingness cramped, but we can have up to seven skiing with racks/boxes up top for gear.

This car has been very reliable, is very powerful for highway travel/merges, does surprisingly well on snow, and gets awesome gas mileage. Should feel familiar after your RX, merely slightly more passenger room/slightly less refined features/slightly crappier ride/more cargo surface area. If your RX was not hybrid, I bet getting a hybrid volition net amend dispatch.

We moved from an 2002 Outback, adding a ton of room + 2 seats* + meliorate mileage + higher tow rating (3500 vs. 2700 in the OB). The only spec we lost out on (aside from wallet weight) was 0.7 in of basis clearance -> remember about whether you lot ever felt similar clearance was an effect in your OB, as it will be more of an issue in the Highlander/RX.

Highlander is *not* a lifted Sienna, but rather a *barely lifted*, otherwise stretched Camry -> Siennas have much more interior infinite/improve layout for people and cargo, take a good reputation for handling in snowfall (AWD), only worse mileage and <7" ground clearance. Same trailer capacity every bit HiHy, tho. I have huge Sienna envy sometimes, it's a cool auto (I said it...), and gets almost same mileage equally the T6 Volvos/H6 Subys.

Some additional FWIWs:
- MDX awd organization works really well in heavy Tahoe snow, and this is an overall really nice bundle. I recall Pilot is by and large aforementioned platform, just has third row available more than years, and college towing capacity (for your bikes!). Lower mileage than hybrid and regular Highlanders, tho
- Swine is spot on with the GX 470. Great ride, super value, but you'll pay at the pump. Often. Get this if you think you'll be doing much forest road/off road exploring or, actually, become one for $10k and exit information technology at your ski home. If you're thinking almost used 4runner, look at a GX 470 of the aforementioned year instead (upwards to 2010, then GX460 became a Highlander west/bad mileage)
- You can do lots of work to the Suby, but y'all won't be able to embiggen the interior to account for growth of your 9 & 13 year olds -> Yous are at height "family fitting in i" right at present. And you lot shouldn't accept to throw more time & coin at this matter just to employ as advertised.

Good luck!
Paul

* when using all 7 seats in the Highlander, there is really no cargo room. For occasional employ/direct OB replacement, roof box picks up slack. If yous expect to see more passengers regularly, run across AWD Sienna green-eyed.

Audi. Either pay 2x for a new one or get a 5x older 1 for the same price. Either style yous will exist way ahead. Handling, reliability, ability, and fuel efficiency. And the PRESTIGE. No 1 checks if you lot are sleeping in an Audi

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Rallitek Rear Springs for 2016 Subaru Outback Review

Suggestions for replacing our new Subaru Outback with something non so fragile

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